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~Carlzors Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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Here ya go! Sorry it took so long.
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~Carlzors Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thumb didn't work. Oh well.
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~Ziblink Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I have a math problem for you, divine sir.

Certain numbers can be obtained by summing their digits raised to the power of the number of digits in that number. Thus 4 = 4^1 and 153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3.

Can you prove whether this set of numbers is finite or infinite?
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~Hexaditidom Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, found the thing. [link]
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~Ziblink Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Tsk tsk! Cheating. I worked the answer out myself after seeing a math video on youtube. I don't google the answers to YOUR problems.
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~Hexaditidom Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm thinking it's finite.

Let M_n = 999... [n 9's] ...999,
Let d(n) = floor(log(n)) + 1 ; representing the number of digits in n.
Let f(n) = the sum of the digits each raised to the power of d(n).
We will say it "has the property" if f(n) = n for some n.

If d(f(M_n)) < n for some n, there does not exist a number satisfying the property for that n. (If M doesn't satisfy it, nothing will.)

f(M_n) = n*9^n
d(f(M_n)) = floor(log(n*9^n)) + 1
= floor(log(n) + log(9^n)) + 1
= floor(log(n) + n*log 9) + 1
<= log(n) + n*log 9 + 1 because nobody likes the floor function when we're trying to algebra.

log 9 = 0.95424250943932487459005580651023 according to windows XP's calculuator which should really allow copy and paste.

Suppose n = 100. Then log(100) + 100*log 9 + 1 = 2 + 95.4242... + 1 = 98.4242 which is less than 100. So there are no hundred-digit numbers with this property.

So by induction, since
log(n) + n*log 9 + 1 < n
is true for n = 100, I want to show that
log(n+1) + (n+1)*log 9 + 1 < n + 1.

When n > 100, we have:
log(1 + 1/n) < log (1 + 1/9)
log((n+1)/n) < log (10/9)
log(n+1) - log n < log 10 - log 9
log(n+1) + log 9 < log n + 1
log(n+1) + n*log 9 + log 9 < log n + n*log 9 + 1 < n (given in the base step)
log(n+1) + n*log 9 + log 9 < n
log(n+1) + (n+1)*log 9 < n
log(n+1) + (n+1)*log 9 + 1 < n+1

I'm not sure induction was even necessary here. Still, this shows that when n > 100, there does not exist a number with the property. So if this is all sound, the set of numbers must be finite.

Now you've got me curious! I'm going to try and get a program to list all the numbers before the night is out.
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~Ziblink Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Your XP calculator doesn't allow copy-paste? Mine does, ctrl-C.


And huzzah! Actual working-out-ness!

The way I did it was basically thus:

1.) It is possible for one of these numbers to exist if the sum of the powers of its digits are equal to or larger than the number.

2.) The value of the largest x digit number (9, 99, 999...) increases by (10^x + 2) - 1 / (10^x + 1) - 1 which tends to an increase of 10 each digit increase.

3.) The sum of the largest x digit number (9, 99, 999...) is x(9^x)

4.) THIS increases per digit by x + 1(9^x + 1) / x(9^x) = x + 1/x * 9; this starts larger than 9 *18 to be precise,t hen 13.5...) but decreases rapidly to 9.

5.) Ergo we have one value increasing at no less than 10 and one at no less than 9, so eventually we'll have the case where the sum of all the digits of any number to power x is less than the number itself, meaning their number is finite.

You of course have a the link to the exact mathematical check we can do to see that this occurs at 60 digits.

Liked your algebraic attack though, I had to use simpler logwork.
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~spartan990 Dec 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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There ya go! Sorry about the wait!
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~Exobio Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the watch!
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~KodyBoy555 Nov 23, 2012  Student Artist
Hi. My name's Kody. Can I draw your lizard fursona with permission?
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